COVID-19 vaccines in 2023 – Therapeutic Guidelines
                            November 23, 2023
                                These vaccines are really well tolerated by children. Compared    to other vaccines, they don't seem to be particularly likely to    cause fever or lots of other uncomfortable symptoms.  
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    We've heard a lot about COVID-19 vaccination early in the    pandemic and, in fact, that is what has given us a pathway to    resuming the function of our society. COVID-19 is an ongoing    issue, however, a constantly evolving one, and vaccines are on    the front line of managing it. So here in 2023, what do we do    about COVID-19 vaccines in our everyday lives, and what does    the future look like? Ketaki Sharma is a staff specialist at    the NCIRS, the National Centre for Immunisation Research and    Surveillance, and she's co-authored an article in Australian    Prescriber about COVID-19 vaccines in 2023, and she joins us on    the podcast today. Ket, welcome to the program.  
    Thanks, David. Thank you for having me.  
    So tell me a little bit about how COVID-19 evolving has    affected vaccination and, potentially, does it affect at all    the rationale for vaccination?  
    Yeah, it absolutely does. So COVID-19 has evolved starting from    quite early in the pandemic with the emergence of different    variants. I'm sure the listeners would be familiar with the    nomenclature used for those variants. We started off with    Alpha, Beta, then we had a very big wave of Delta. That one was    particularly virulent and certainly had an impact on the push    for vaccination because we were seeing much more severe    disease. More recently, all of those older variants have been    replaced by Omicron. So since the emergence and global    domination of Omicron during 2022, we no longer detect any of    those older variants.  
    As we all know, the original vaccines were based on what we    call the ancestral or the original version of SARS-CoV-2,    sometimes also called the Wuhan strain because that's where it    emerged. We are now facing a virus that's adapted with several    different rounds of mutations. There is evidence that when you    look at the neutralising antibody or the immune responses to    that original vaccine compared to some of the newer vaccines    based on variants, there is a benefit to having a vaccine that    is based on a more recent variant of SARS-CoV-2. So it has, and    it probably will continue to influence COVID-19 vaccine    development just like we see with the annual flu vaccine, which    is tailored every year to target the most recent strain.  
    So perhaps I can ask you: COVID-19 vaccination now, what's    the primary aim of what we're trying to do in terms for our    patients and for society? It sounds like things have probably    shifted from that time at the very beginning.  
    Yeah, absolutely. So the initial stated aim of the Australian    COVID-19 vaccine program was to reduce infection and even    potentially reduce transmission of the virus. But now we are    well past that, and the main goal is to reduce the risk of    severe illness specifically. That's why in the most recent    rounds of booster advice, the people that are targeted are    really those who still are at risk of severe illness, namely    older adults and people with risk factors like medical    conditions that increase their risk of severe COVID.  
    Right. So perhaps maybe we can run through the booster    recommendation first. Obviously, the vast majority of    Australians have had primary vaccination. Talk me through the    booster recommendations now.  
    The two key groups that should be vaccinated now would be    people aged 75 years or older if they haven't had a dose in the    last 6 months. You can consider vaccination for people aged 65    to 74, that includes healthy 65- to 74-year-olds. You can also    consider vaccination for people aged 18 to 64 with severe    immunocompromise. There was also an earlier statement issued by    ATAGI [Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation] in    February of 2023 that was a little bit broader. So that advised    to consider vaccination for adults aged 18 to 64 even if they    have no risk factors and for 5- to 17-year-olds who do have    medical risk factors. So if people hadn't even had that first    dose and so they're still well over 6 months since their last    dose, you could also consider catching them up as well. I know    all of this is extremely complicated and hard to take in when    you're listening, so I would encourage listeners to have a look    at the     COVID-19 chapter of the Australian Immunisation Handbook,    which has recently been published and which summarises all of    this information in a more digestible way.  
    For that considered category, what would make individuals    decide to have that vaccine or not?  
    So obviously the most important thing, I think, is the    individual's preferences. So some people are quite concerned    and they want regular booster doses of COVID-19 vaccines even    if they're not in one of those risk groups. So sometimes we    find ourselves having to reassure people the other way that in    fact, actually, if you are a young healthy person you don't    need another dose right now. So personal preference is one of    the most important ones.  
    Other things to consider are if they have had previous COVID-19    infections, which we think the vast majority of Australians    have had. So recent serosurveys have showed over two-thirds of    adults have evidence of past infection, but if they don't think    they've ever had COVID, then they wouldn't have hybrid    immunity. So that's another reason you might want to give a    relatively younger adult a booster. The other thing is life    circumstances. So for example, if somebody's about to go on a    holiday and they really don't want to get COVID, impending    overseas travel or a new job working in a health facility where    they anticipate they might have increased risk, that just might    influence the specific timing of giving someone a booster dose.  
    As someone who's had COVID overseas, it wasn't a lot of fun,    so I can certainly understand the rationale behind that. Can we    just talk a little bit through hybrid immunity, because I think    people wonder about that a lot?  
    So hybrid immunity is clearly better than having protection    from just vaccination alone or from just infection alone. In    Australia, we think the majority of the population probably    already has this hybrid immunity, but both of those types of    protection wane over time. On top of that, we will potentially    keep facing new variants of SARS-CoV-2. So one of the more    recent ones called BA.2.86 has some mutations that may make the    vaccines or past infections a little bit less protective. That    doesn't necessarily mean it'll cause severe diseaseit just    means that hybrid immunity will not necessarily provide very    long-term protection against severe disease for all members of    the population. So we have to keep on monitoring the evidence    to see which groups are emerging as being at continued risk.  
    Now in terms of which vaccine to go with. You've put a link    in there to a beautiful A3 poster. How would we go about    approaching what type of vaccine to give people in this booster    setting?  
    I think now we're sort of entering a situation where it almost    shouldn't matter. Just like the annual flu vaccine, the vast    majority of people don't turn up to their GP or pharmacist    asking for a specific brand of flu vaccine. They just ask for    that year's flu vaccine. So that's been the case with the    variant-based vaccines we've had so far. So we've had two    different BA.1-based vaccines. We've had two different    BA.4-5-based vaccines, and all of those are based on    subvariants of Omicron. ATAGI's advice has been to consider    them all basically equivalent, even if BA.4-5 was a little bit    later than BA.1, they appear to be equally immunogenic against    the circulating variants at the time that they were used.        We now also have from the TGA [Therapeutic Goods    Administration] the approval of two newer vaccines based on    XBB.1.5, which is another Omicron subvariant that's even more    recent.  
    So we currently know that those vaccines are very immunogenic    against the newer Omicron subvariants, including BA.2.86. We    don't yet have clinical data to show if they're very superior    in their protection against severe disease. So the    possibilities are if they turn out to be very superior, then    potentially there could be a preferential recommendation. But    it seems equally likely that people would be recommended to    just have the latest vaccine that's available, not consider    which brand, not consider the specific doses, just get your    COVID-19 vaccine.  
    That simplicity in a sea of choice is definitely something    that's appreciated for us as frontline clinicians. I think the    other little bit of complexity is about what to do about    primary vaccination. There might be some adults who haven't    been vaccinated who might be still keen to get vaccinated, but    there's obviously a large number of children who have never    been vaccinated. What are our current primary vaccination    recommendations?  
    So ATAGI's current recommendations are that all children aged 5    and older should have a primary course of 2 doses of COVID-19    vaccine. For children under the age of 5, so 6 months up to 5    years old, you're only recommended to have a primary course if    you have risk conditions for severe COVID-19. So it's quite a    limited vaccination program for those very young children, but    recommended for all children 5 and older. But I will mention    that other countries around the world, some of them have    stopped vaccinating healthy young children or reduced down to a    single dose. So that's potentially something that we could see    around the world becoming more common. I think part of the    reason for that is widespread exposure to past infections of    SARS-CoV-2. Even at the very beginning before anyone was    exposed, the risk of severe COVID-19 was always extremely low    in young children.  
    So let's get the flip side of this, and I think some of the    concerns that maybe some people had about vaccinating in    younger children and adolescents was about vaccine safety. If    the accusation before was that we hadn't had enough experience,    certainly we've had a lot of experience with vaccine safety    now.  
    Yeah, absolutely. Over 13 billion doses of COVID-19 vaccines    have been administered globally. So we definitely have a lot of    safety data, probably more safety data on these vaccines than    any other product in history. In Australia specifically, there    is data available on COVID-19 vaccine safety in children, which    you can link to from the NCIRS website through a program called    AusVaxSafety. It looks at the reactions reported by children in    the days following vaccination, and what you'll find is that    these vaccines are really well tolerated by children. Compared    to other vaccines, they don't seem to be particularly likely to    cause fever or lots of other uncomfortable symptoms. The other    safety concern that has been raised in relation to young people    is myocarditis, so inflammation of the heart muscle, and also    pericarditis, which is the heart lining, but that tends to be    more common in older adults.  
    Myocarditis, the highest risk is in young adolescents or young    adults 16, 17 would be the peak age, and seems to be most    common after the second dose, but still overall rare. And it's    important to recognise that the risk of myocarditis is much    higher with the virus itself. So based on that riskbenefit    analysis, vaccination was still recommended. As I've mentioned,    it doesn't seem to be something that young children seem to be    at risk of.  
    So I know I'm getting really into the minutiae here, but if    someone does have an adverse event, what should their    clinicians do then? Should they be reporting that adverse    event, and what about revaccination after that?  
    Yeah, so we would encourage clinicians to report any adverse    events that you think are either severe or unusual. So you    don't need to report somebody coming forward with a fever or a    local injection-site reaction that you think is within the    expected norm following vaccination. But certainly severe    adverse events, we would request all immunisation providers to    report those to the TGA. Then in terms of assessment and    management of the adverse event, as with all other vaccines, it    depends on the severity.  
    So the only absolute contraindications to future doses of    COVID-19 vaccines would be anaphylaxis or a very severe adverse    event that has been attributed to a previous dose of that    vaccine. The only other contraindication is the very unique    one, which is a previous history of capillary leak syndrome,    which is specifically a contraindication to the Moderna    vaccine. But that's so rare, it almost feels strange to    mention. The main thing to recall is anaphylaxis doesn't seem    to be any more common with COVID-19 vaccines compared to any    other type of vaccine, and the vast majority of people tolerate    these vaccines really well.  
    So let's look forward a little bit in terms of what the    future might hold, always a slightly dangerous thing within    COVID-19. So how might the future variant landscape evolve? How    do you think we'll work with vaccines to try and combat those    evolutions?  
    So there's actually already a committee established whose    entire remit is this question, and it's a technical advisory    group to the WHO specifically on COVID-19 vaccine composition.    So what that committee is doing is monitoring the virus and    variants as they evolve and issues guidance. So in May of 2023,    that committee recommended development of vaccines based on the    XBB.1.5 subvariant, which is exactly what we've seen. So I    think in future we can see similar coordinated efforts to    recommend which variants appear to be either particularly    virulent or particularly dominant, and that can inform future    vaccine development.  
    There are also vaccine developers looking at broader vaccines,    so using components from different types of coronaviruses and    not just focused on one particular variant. So theoretically,    those could provide broader protection. There's also vaccines    being looked at and even registered in a couple of countries    overseas with a different platform like intranasal vaccines.    That again, could theoretically broaden your immune response    because it engages the innate immune system and different parts    of your immune system. So there is a potential that we may see    better vaccines come out in the future but, at the very least,    I think we can expect to see periodically updated vaccines to    match what the most dominant variants are.  
    Finally, I think a question which often gets asked: what    about timing with the influenza vaccine? That's obviously    another vaccine that we give seasonally and may well be nice to    align with the COVID-19 vaccination program. Do you think    that's something that we're likely to see in the future?  
    Yeah, absolutely. In fact, that's another product that is being    developed by multiple manufacturers. So combined COVID-19 and    influenza vaccines. We are not yet sure what the exact    seasonality of SARS-CoV-2 is. In Australia, we have had peaks    over summer months as well, but we certainly have also seen    severe illness rise over winter months. The last ATAGI guidance    for booster doses was issued in September, so it does make    sense that, 6 months later if you have patients that are still    at high risk, it may well be very convenient. By that time, I    expect we may have updated advice in the Handbook, but it may    well make sense to combine those two vaccines. One of the    biggest benefits of that is the logistics for providers not    having to bring people back multiple times and also being able    to be opportunistic. Because if someone's coming in for the flu    vaccine and they haven't been thinking about COVID, you can    look at their risk factors and you can get them vaccinated    while they're there.  
    Great. Well, we thank you and everyone at the NCIRS for all    their hard work in trying to make sure that we keep up with    this evolving landscape. Thank you for your work on this    article in Australian Prescriber. Please do go and check it    out, and thank you very much for joining us on the podcast    today.  
    Thanks for having me, David. Before I go, can I just plug the    NCIRS website where we're soon going to have an updated    decision aid for COVID-19 vaccines. So that's something that    your patients will be able to click through themselves and    think about all of those factors that we've discussed and think    about whether they might be ready to have another booster dose.  
    Brilliant, that sounds incredibly useful, and thank you very    much for joining us.  
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    Ketaki Sharma is a member of the Australian Regional    Immunisation Alliance. Ketaki contributed to the authorship of    the Australian Immunisation Handbook and statements from the    Australian Technical Advisory Group for Immunisation. I'm a    member of the Drug Utilisation Subcommittee of the PBAC. The    views of the guests and the host on this podcast may not    represent Therapeutic Guidelines or Australian Prescriber. I'm    David Liew and once again, thank you for joining us on this    Australian Prescriber Podcast. [This interview was conducted on    21 October 2023.]  
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